{"id":19976,"date":"2014-10-01T13:05:53","date_gmt":"2014-10-01T20:05:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/?p=19976"},"modified":"2021-01-13T09:48:33","modified_gmt":"2021-01-13T17:48:33","slug":"interview-director-michael-hames-garcia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/interview-director-michael-hames-garcia\/","title":{"rendered":"An Interview with CSWS Director Michael Hames-Garc\u00eda"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_17249\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/michael-hames-garcia-appointed-next-director-of-csws-beginning-july-2014\/michael-hames-garcia_web\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-17249\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17249\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-17249\" src=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Michael-Hames-Garcia_WEB-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Michael Hames-Garc\u00eda \/ photo by Ernesto Javier Mart\u00ednez \" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Michael-Hames-Garcia_WEB-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Michael-Hames-Garcia_WEB-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Michael-Hames-Garcia_WEB.jpg 386w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17249\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michael Hames-Garc\u00eda \/ photo by Ernesto Javier Mart\u00ednez<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Editor\u2019s Note: This is a full-length version of the interview that appears in shorter form in the <a href=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/docs\/publications\/2014_CSWS_Annual_Rvw.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>2014 CSWS Annual Review<\/em><\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>By Jen\u00e9e Wilde, PhD Candidate, UO Department of English (Folklore)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Michael Hames-Garc\u00eda is a professor in the Department of Ethnic Studies at University of Oregon. Originally from Portland, he earned his PhD in English from Cornell University and taught on the East Coast before returning to his home state to direct Ethnic Studies at the University of Oregon for five years. He also directed UO\u2019s Center for Race, Ethnicity, and Sexuality Studies for six years, and he has been involved for more than a decade with the Future of Minority Studies Project, a national research initiative funded by the Mellon Foundation. Among his honors, Hames-Garc\u00eda was the recipient the 2011 Martin Luther King, Jr. Award for promoting cultural diversity and racial justice at the University of Oregon. Author of <\/em>Fugitive Thought: Prison Movements, Race, and the Meaning of Justice<em> (2004) and <\/em>Identity Complex: Making the Case for Multiplicity<em> (2011), his research examines the complex interplay of gender, race, sexuality, and colonial legacies in U.S. society and the interrelatedness of different forms of social identity. His current research is focused on gender, race, and sexuality in literary production about gay men during the period between World War II and the Stonewall Rebellion.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>JW: In forty years, you are the first male director of the Center for the Study of Women in Society. Why did you want to lead a women\u2019s research center?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/identity-complex-a-groundbreaking-new-book-by-michael-hames-garcia\/identity-complex\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-10350\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-10350\" src=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/identity-complex.jpg\" alt=\"book cover\" width=\"181\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/identity-complex.jpg 181w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/identity-complex-96x150.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 181px) 100vw, 181px\" \/><\/a>MHG: That\u2019s an interesting question, and I\u2019ve heard versions of the question already. One of the things I think is interesting is that I actually suspect that it will be more impactful in the long run\u2014or I hope it will be more impactful in the long run\u2014that I\u2019m the first director of color for CSWS in forty years, rather than the first male, or in addition to being the first male director of CSWS. I wanted to direct CSWS not specifically because it\u2019s a women\u2019s research center, but because I\u2019m passionate about research. I\u2019m passionate about feminist and anti-racist and anti-homophobic research, and CSWS is the place to make an impact on that research and that scholarship, particularly at the University of Oregon. It is an amazing opportunity to really influence the course of feminist scholarship on the campus but also beyond the campus, and I couldn\u2019t pass it up.<\/p>\n<p>JW: What other kinds of collaborative research and leadership processes have you been a part of?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: I was on the National Coordinating Committee for the Future of Minority Studies [FMS] research project. It was a consortium of faculty and graduate students across the nation who were doing scholarship on race, gender, sexuality, and colonialism, and really trying to make an impact on the state of intersectional feminist scholarship in the humanities and social sciences. We ran, among other things, a summer institute for six years at Cornell University and Stanford University to bring in advanced graduate students and junior faculty into a seminar to work intensively with senior scholars. We also organized a number of national conferences over the course of a little over a decade.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Have you seen any outcomes from that?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: Yes, a lot of the scholars that came though the FMS summer institutes, colloquia, and conferences have gone on to get positions and become tenured. It\u2019s really nice to see all these alums of FMS populating women\u2019s studies and ethnic studies departments across the country.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/research\/books-film\/2011-faculty-publications\/gay-latino-studies-cover\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-8922\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-8922\" src=\"http:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Gay-Latino-Studies-cover-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"Gay Latino Studies cover\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Gay-Latino-Studies-cover-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Gay-Latino-Studies-cover-98x150.jpg 98w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Gay-Latino-Studies-cover.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a>JW: You must realize that some CSWS affiliates are nervous about a man taking over as director. What would you say to those who fear that the concerns of women and girls will get lost, or take a back seat, to your own areas of interest?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: I think it\u2019s a legitimate concern. I think that it\u2019s a concern that I would have about a man taking a directorship of a center for the study of women in society. That said, what I would say in response is that my own interests are, in fact, the study of women in society, the study of women and girls, as well as the contexts for that study\u2014namely, the study of gender and sexuality. And I think that my desire to be involved with CSWS is largely a desire to be involved with that scholarship and to promote the scholarship on women, gender, and sexuality at the University of Oregon. I\u2019m not sure what else to say but that is my scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>JW: How have feminist mentors influenced your development as a scholar?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: My development as a scholar has been almost entirely under the influence of feminist mentors. They\u2019ve influenced it profoundly\u2014the way I think, the questions that I ask, how I define knowledge in a research topic. All of that is influenced by feminism and feminist mentors and feminist scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Can you give me an example?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/interview-director-michael-hames-garcia\/hames-garcia_reclaiming_identity_web\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-19978\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-19978\" src=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Hames-Garcia_Reclaiming_Identity_WEB-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"Hames-Garcia_Reclaiming_Identity_WEB\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Hames-Garcia_Reclaiming_Identity_WEB-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Hames-Garcia_Reclaiming_Identity_WEB-98x150.jpg 98w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Hames-Garcia_Reclaiming_Identity_WEB.jpg 247w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a>MHG: Going back to the beginning with my dissertation, I did that at a time when very little of the scholarship being done in critical prison studies paid any attention to gender. And it never really occurred to me as a possibility for myself to do a project on prisoners that <em>didn\u2019t<\/em> take gender and the construction of gender as a central framework, rather than gender as some kind of variable or as a kind of essentialized or natural category. There\u2019s a lot of research, particularly on men in prison, that takes masculinity as this thing without questioning it at all as a social construction.<\/p>\n<p>JW: How do you see yourself as a feminist leader and mentor?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: I\u2019ve always tried to be the kind of mentor that my best mentors were. I don\u2019t know if I think of it explicitly as a feminist style of mentorship, but since those mentors were feminist, that\u2019s probably there. I certainty, as a leader\u2014seems weird to call myself a leader, but I guess I\u2019ve had leadership positions\u2014I strive for building consensus. When we were departmentalizing ethnic studies, one of the things that we were explicit about was to specify that our department did not run on Robert\u2019s Rules but on consensus. So I think that while it can be a frustrating process, and it can be a slow process, and it\u2019s not necessarily always a feminist process, either, I do think that consensus is a good process that lends itself to feminist ideals more so than other kinds of decision-making practices. And it\u2019s almost always worth it. It\u2019s amazing to me how often I\u2019m more happy with the results of a consensus process than with the initial proposal I developed for group discussion. Other people are very smart, and their input nearly always improves an idea. Again, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s a feminist style of leadership per se, but it\u2019s certainly something I strive to make compatible with my feminism.<\/p>\n<p>JW: What other leadership roles have you held on campus, and how were they related to your decision to lead CSWS?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: In addition to directing the Department of Ethnic Studies, I also directed a research center, the Center for Race, Ethnicity, and Sexuality Studies [CRESS] at the University of Oregon, which was around for five or six years. I think that part of what I wanted to do with CRESS was expand the kind of work that CSWS was already doing, but specifically offering opportunities that CSWS at that time wasn\u2019t able to offer. So we did a lot of works in progress among faculty and graduate students with other faculty commenting, and we also did a number of publishing workshops with press editors. I understand that, since then, both CLLAS [Center for Latino\/a and Latin American Studies] and CSWS have taken up the model of the publishing workshops, which is great. I remember having conversations both with [past CSWS directors] Sandi [Morgan] and Carol [Stabile] at different points about folding the activities of CRESS into CSWS. Those never quite culminated, but once I was no longer able to sustain CRESS because of the lack of funding, I had more conversations with Carol about trying to bring some of those activities more into the CSWS umbrella.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Do you feel like directing CSWS follows in the footsteps of what you\u2019ve done already with the Future of Minority Studies and CRESS?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/interview-director-michael-hames-garcia\/fugitive_thought_web\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-19979\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-19979\" src=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Fugitive_Thought_WEB-196x300.jpg\" alt=\"Fugitive_Thought_WEB\" width=\"196\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Fugitive_Thought_WEB-196x300.jpg 196w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Fugitive_Thought_WEB-98x150.jpg 98w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Fugitive_Thought_WEB.jpg 245w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 196px) 100vw, 196px\" \/><\/a>MHG: I think so. I think it\u2019s a new stage for me, certainly a new kind of endeavor. FMS was multi-institution but with a funding base at Cornell University, provided through the Mellon Foundation, and also with a large national coordinating team, so that project had particular challenges to it given its extra-institutional structure. CRESS, being an unfunded research center, had other challenges, but I think I was able to make a good impact on the campus with that center despite those challenges. I\u2019m really hoping that CSWS, with its endowment, with its long-established reputation and its great set of affiliate scholars, will be able to be an excellent vehicle for making change.<\/p>\n<p>JW: How have you been involved with CSWS, and how has that involvement supported your development as a scholar?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: It\u2019s always been for me a place of intellectual community on campus, a place where exciting things are happening and where exciting work is being generated. I was on the board of CSWS shortly after I arrived at the University of Oregon in the late 2000s. I\u2019ve been involved tangentially with a couple of RIGs but not centrally. I applied for some CSWS travel grants, but I haven\u2019t had any major funding from CSWS for my research. It definitely has been a place that has sustained me as an intellectual just through its presence and its events and the kinds of projects that it has developed and the kinds of people that it attracts.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Can you give me one example?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: When Sandi Morgan was director of CSWS, Lamia Karim and Sangita Gopal organized a conference on Empire. It was my second year here, and they brought in an amazing entourage of feminist scholars from around the world with amazing perspectives on women and society that I had not encountered before. It was a really amazing, amazing weekend. That was just early on. The queer studies RIG, I think in its first iteration, organized a writing retreat on the coast where I did a lot of the writing of my last chapter of my second book.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/interview-director-michael-hames-garcia\/identity_politics_reconsidered_web\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-19983\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-19983\" src=\"http:\/\/csws.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Identity_Politics_Reconsidered_WEB-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"Identity_Politics_Reconsidered_WEB\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Identity_Politics_Reconsidered_WEB-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Identity_Politics_Reconsidered_WEB-98x150.jpg 98w, https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Identity_Politics_Reconsidered_WEB.jpg 247w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a>JW: What are your goals as director?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: My goals as director are to continue the work that has been done to grow the endowment, to expand CSWS\u2019s capacity for supported research on campus\u2014particularly expanding the capacity for supporting graduate student research and undergraduate research. I\u2019m really hoping to build CSWS\u2019s profile off campus in the Oregon community. We already do great work with that with the Road Scholars, so I\u2019m hoping to expand that as well as to expand the relationship between CSWS and non-profit organizations in Oregon that focus on women, as well, one of those being Sponsors, Inc.\u2014an organization in Lane County that works to meet the needs of men and women reentering society after their release from prison, whose board I have recently joined. As far as CSWS\u2019s programming goes, I\u2019ve been in conversation with the advisory board about structuring some of the activities around annual themes to give a slightly higher profile to certain activities that the center does and to organize conversations campus-wide around those topics.<\/p>\n<p>JW: What themes are you considering?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: They aren\u2019t finalized yet, but certainly we\u2019re interested\u2014particularly in light of recent events on campus\u2014in questions of violence, including structural violence and sexual violence. Also, there\u2019s been some conversation around ideas of colonialism and post-coloniality in relation to gender, as well as identity and performance.<\/p>\n<p>JW: Anything else you would like to tell our interested audience?<\/p>\n<p>MHG: I\u2019m very excited about the challenges and opportunities that CSWS poses. I think that it\u2019s amazing to step into a legacy of forty years. I feel the weight of the work that people have done in those decades to build this center, and I feel as someone who grew up in Oregon, and someone who\u2019s learned from feminist scholars my whole life, and someone who is committed to the University of Oregon, I feel a responsibility to that legacy\u2014to build on it, to improve on it, and to steward it for generations to come.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Editor\u2019s Note: This is a full-length version of the interview that appears in shorter form in the 2014 CSWS Annual Review. By Jen\u00e9e Wilde, PhD Candidate, UO Department of English (Folklore) Michael Hames-Garc\u00eda is a professor in the Department of&hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"more-link-p\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/interview-director-michael-hames-garcia\/\">Read more &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[95,20,15,30],"tags":[56,200,158],"class_list":["post-19976","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-academic-issues","category-csws-staff","category-people","category-publications","tag-csws","tag-michael-hames-garcia","tag-uo"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19976","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19976"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19976\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":33512,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19976\/revisions\/33512"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19976"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19976"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/csws-archive.uoregon.edu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19976"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}